На чьей Вы стороне? (Израиль vs Палестина)

[e-z]

Я прочла, что он пытался лечить PTSD, но не смог побороть чувство вины - что не всех спас.

[self]

As word spread that the Arab country of Qatar may give President Donald Trump a luxury airplane, Israeli citizens passed around a suggestion in chat groups on how to match that offer: giving Trump his own parking spot in the traffic nightmare that is Tel Aviv.

It was a joke, of course. But it underscored a reality that’s dawning on Israelis like never before as Trump tours the Middle East this week. Compared with many of its neighbors, Israel doesn’t have much in the way of tangible financial benefits to offer a U.S. president whose preferred form of statecraft is economic.

American presidents from both parties have long offered near-unconditional support for Israel. But Trump has famously brought a far more transactional — and some argue corrupt — approach to the presidency, especially in his second term. He wants deals, deals and more deals, whether it’s to materially aid the American people or himself and his family.

Countries such as Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates — all of which Trump is visiting this week — are offering to invest hundreds of billions of dollars in the U.S., let their affiliated companies ink deals with Trump family businesses and purchase mind-boggling amounts of American weapons. On Tuesday, Saudi Arabia alone pledged to invest $600 billion in the U.S., including $142 billion in arms sales.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... p-00348564

[Броун]

As word spread that the Arab country of Qatar may give President Donald Trump a luxury airplane, Israeli citizens passed around a suggestion in chat groups on how to match that offer: giving Trump his own parking spot in the traffic nightmare that is Tel Aviv.

It was a joke, of course. But it underscored a reality that’s dawning on Israelis like never before as Trump tours the Middle East this week. Compared with many of its neighbors, Israel doesn’t have much in the way of tangible financial benefits to offer a U.S. president whose preferred form of statecraft is economic.

Я понимаю твое желание внушить израильтянам сомнения в трамповской поддержке, и не могу не признать, что его хаотичная и агрессивная манера общения со всеми, включая союзников, вызывает многочисленные опасения у израильтян.

Тем не менее, пока он демонстрирует в отношении Израиля абсолютную поддержку.
Что будет дальше? Придется подождать.
Если в чем то правительство Израиля его не устроит - может надавить.

С другой стороны, он инициировал такое количество потенциальных изменений, что Ближний Восток может измениться до неузнаваемости.

Прямые переговоры с Ираном, Сирией, хамасом.
хамас впервые выразил готовность передать управление Газой третьей стороне.
Сирия выразила желание присоединиться к Авраамову аккорду.

Сейчас мало что понятно, но если кто и может принести изменения на БВ, то это бульдозер вроде Трампа.

[Броун]

А вот такое пялится на нас с другой стороны политического спектра.

https://mignews.com/news/novosti-ssha/v ... okost.html
Ведущий кандидат на пост мэра Нью-Йорка не признает Израиль и отрицает Холокост

Член Ассамблеи штата Нью-Йорк Зохран Мамдани, один из ведущих кандидатов в гонке за пост мэра Нью-Йорка, отказался подписывать резолюции, признающие Израиль и осуждающие Холокост, сообщает Politico.

Мамдани занимает второе место по результатам опросов перед праймериз мэра Демократической партии в следующем месяце. Голосование, скорее всего, определит следующего мэра города в основном демократического. Всеобщие выборы состоятся в ноябре.

[Irena]

Броун, а что с зятем трампа кушнером, чем он сейчас занимается? Он, кажется, был советником и инициирующей произраильской силой в первый срок президентства? А сейчас что?

[Броун]

Броун, а что с зятем трампа кушнером, чем он сейчас занимается? Он, кажется, был советником и инициирующей произраильской силой в первый срок президентства? А сейчас что?

Не знаю. А почему это важно?

Вот нашел, если тебе интересно.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/jared- ... 025-01-15/
Jared Kushner advises from afar as Ivanka Trump opts out of role in father's second term

Donald Trump's daughter, Ivanka Trump, and her husband Jared Kushner enjoyed largely unfettered access to Trump in his first term and were influential on a vast portfolio including Middle Eastern peace negotiations and COVID-19 vaccine development.
In the second Trump administration starting on Jan. 20, however, they say they will not take official roles, and will instead be some 1,000 miles (1,600 km) away from Washington D.C. in their Miami home.
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Kushner, originally a real estate scion, now runs a private equity firm fueled by investments from Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates. Ivanka Trump, meanwhile, has eschewed politics and has said she wants to focus on her three children.
However, Kushner remains involved behind the scenes, advising on Trump's Middle Eastern strategy, helping select appointees and guiding certain cabinet members through the transition, according to one source familiar with his work.
Kushner is "very, very close" to Trump's incoming chief-of-staff, Susie Wiles, and speaks to her regularly, the source said. Kushner is also involved with some hiring - for example working with incoming Attorney General Pam Bondi to help find a new Federal Bureau of Prisons director, the source added.
And Kushner, who helped broker a series of normalization agreements between Israel and Arab nations, has been advising Steve Witkoff, a longtime Trump friend and donor, on his new job as special envoy to the Middle East.
"He's been focusing on getting Steve up to speed on the file and helping Steve with strategy," the source added.

[Irena]

Броун, а что с зятем трампа кушнером, чем он сейчас занимается? Он, кажется, был советником и инициирующей произраильской силой в первый срок президентства? А сейчас что?

Не знаю. А почему это важно?

Вот нашел, если тебе интересно.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/jared- ... 025-01-15/
Jared Kushner advises from afar as Ivanka Trump opts out of role in father's second term

Donald Trump's daughter, Ivanka Trump, and her husband Jared Kushner enjoyed largely unfettered access to Trump in his first term and were influential on a vast portfolio including Middle Eastern peace negotiations and COVID-19 vaccine development.
In the second Trump administration starting on Jan. 20, however, they say they will not take official roles, and will instead be some 1,000 miles (1,600 km) away from Washington D.C. in their Miami home.
...
Kushner, originally a real estate scion, now runs a private equity firm fueled by investments from Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates. Ivanka Trump, meanwhile, has eschewed politics and has said she wants to focus on her three children.
However, Kushner remains involved behind the scenes, advising on Trump's Middle Eastern strategy, helping select appointees and guiding certain cabinet members through the transition, according to one source familiar with his work.
Kushner is "very, very close" to Trump's incoming chief-of-staff, Susie Wiles, and speaks to her regularly, the source said. Kushner is also involved with some hiring - for example working with incoming Attorney General Pam Bondi to help find a new Federal Bureau of Prisons director, the source added.
And Kushner, who helped broker a series of normalization agreements between Israel and Arab nations, has been advising Steve Witkoff, a longtime Trump friend and donor, on his new job as special envoy to the Middle East.
"He's been focusing on getting Steve up to speed on the file and helping Steve with strategy," the source added.

Там в сербии скандал, ну да ладно. Я так и думала, что ты не в курсе.

[Броун]

Там в сербии скандал, ну да ладно.

Да, почитал...
Ну наверное жулик. Хотя по газетным статьям не разберешься.
Может занес кому надо, а может наоборот не занес кому надо.

Ирена, я вообще к политикам плохо отношусь.
После клинтоновского миньета, обамовского чемоданчика Ирану, байденовского сынка - кто в состоянии их уважать?

Я тебе больше скажу - меня скорее напрягает, что компания Кушнера тесно завязана на арабские инвестиции.
Плюс, я где то читал, что возможно часть этих сумасшедших триллионов, которые Трамп везет домой, достались компаниям связанным с его семейкой.

Ну плохо конечно.
Но судить о его президенстве я все равно буду по результатам, которые он сумеет (или не сумеет) достичь для Америки и Израиля.

[Uno]

Грязная семейка, коррумпированные назначенцы , пробы негде ставить:

«Until the Trump administration, the expectation was that presidents would not accept foreign gifts, let alone bribes. As Jonathan Yerushalmy of The Guardian explained today, U.S. law prohibits presidents from accepting gifts worth more than $480. Gifts worth more than that are considered a gift to the American people and are transferred to the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA), the same agency that oversees presidential libraries. President George W. Bush gave up a puppy that was a gift from the leader of Bulgaria. When he left office after his first term, experts estimate, Trump retained more than $250,000 worth of gifts.
Trump loyalist Attorney General Pam Bondi and Trump’s top White House lawyer, David Warrington, signed off on Trump’s acceptance of the Qatari jet. They concluded it was an acceptable gift because while it will be exclusively for Trump’s use, the “flying palace” will be transferred from the Qataris to the U.S. Air Force and then to Trump’s presidential library, and that it is not tied to a specific presidential act. In 2019, Bondi was a registered lobbyist for Qatar, earning $115,000 a month.

The Trump family’s connections to Qatar are longstanding. In 2022 the chair of the Senate Committee on Finance, Ron Wyden (D-OR), and the chair of the House Committee on Oversight and Reform, Carolyn B. Maloney (D-NY), wrote to Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin III, asking for information in their “ongoing investigations into whether former Senior White House Adviser Jared Kushner’s financial conflicts of interest may have led him to improperly influence U.S. tax, trade, and national security policies for his own financial gain.”
Kushner is married to Trump’s daughter and was a key presidential advisor in Trump’s first term. The letter explained that Qatar had repeatedly refused to bail out the badly leveraged Kushner property at 666 Fifth Avenue (now known as 660 Fifth Avenue) in 2018. But after Kushner talked to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates and the two states imposed a blockade on Qatar, Qatar suddenly threw in the necessary cash. Shortly after, the Saudi and UAE governments lifted the blockade, with Kushner taking credit for brokering the agreement.
Wyden and Maloney noted that “[t]he economic blockade of Qatar may have been used as leverage for the 666 Fifth Avenue bailout and was not supported by other officials, including the Secretaries of State and Defense.” They warned that Kushner “may have prioritized his own financial interests over the national interest. The pursuit of personal financial gain should not dictate U.S. tax, trade, and national security policies.”
In this administration the corruption is even more direct. On May 1, 2025, the Trump Organization cut a deal with Qatari Diar, a company established by Qatar’s sovereign wealth fund in 2005 to “coordinate the country’s real estate development priorities.” Together with Saudi Arabian company Dar Global, which has close ties to the Saudi government, the Qatari company will build a $5.5 billion Trump International Golf Club in Qatar.
Trump heads to the Middle East tomorrow to visit Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the United Arab Emirates—three of the world’s wealthiest nations—in search of business deals.
Republicans spent the four years of Democratic president Joe Biden’s term calling to impeach him for allegedly accepting a $5 million payment from Ukraine. The source for that story later admitted to making it up and pleaded guilty of lying to the Federal Bureau of Investigation. And yet the Republicans are silent now.»

[self]

Просто нам тут обьясняли, что мол Гарвард подкуплен арабами и поэтому там все так плохо. Как видим, не все арабские деньги - плохие

[Uno]

Просто нам тут обьясняли, что мол Гарвард подкуплен арабами и поэтому там все так плохо. Как видим, не все арабские деньги - плохие

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эта подстилка- чья надо подстилка.

[klsk]

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-853552

Israel's Public Broadcasting Corporation filed a complaint on Sunday with Swiss police following an incident in which a man wearing a keffiyeh and holding a Palestinian flag made a throat-slitting gesture towards Israel's Eurovision contestant, Yuval Raphael, and spat at members of the Israeli delegation, KAN News reported.

Israel's Public Broadcasting Corporation contacted the European Broadcasting Union, requesting that action be taken to identify the individual who made the gesture and spat at the Israeli delegation.

The incident occurred during the traditional Eurovision delegation parade held on Sunday in Basel, Switzerland, where the international song competition is taking place this year.

[e-z]

То есть Yuval чудом уцелела, хотят добить.

[klsk]

То есть Yuval чудом уцелела, хотят добить.

Более того, некоторые хотят ее вообще не допустить к участию в Евровидении.

https://www.bbc.com/russian/articles/cl ... 0%B2%C2%BB.

Ирландская национальная телерадиокомпания RTÉ обратилась к EBU с просьбой пересмотреть вопрос об участии Израиля. Ее генеральный директор Кевин Бэкхерст сказал, что он «потрясен текущими событиями на Ближнем Востоке и их ужасающими последствиями для мирных жителей в секторе Газа, а также судьбой израильских заложников».

Национальные вещатели Испании и Словении также обратились в EBU с просьбой обсудить этот вопрос.

На прошлой неделе более 70 бывших участников «Евровидения» подписали письмо, призывающее организаторов запретить Израилю участвовать в конкурсе.

[klsk]

Юваль заняла второе место на Евровидении. Песня, на мой взгляд, шикарная.

[e-z]

Юваль заняла второе место на Евровидении. Песня, на мой взгляд, шикарная.

А по зрительским симпатиям - на первом. И что удивительно - большинство ирландского жюри проголосовало за нее.

[Броун]

Гарвард гордо продолжает нести знамя антисемитизма.

https://www.jns.org/harvard-president-d ... education/
Harvard president declines to testify at Senate panel on higher education

“This would have been the chance for Harvard to emphasize its value as a research institution and to tell the committee and the country how it is addressing antisemitism,” Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-La.) stated.
...
“There appears to have been tolerance of antisemitism on Harvard’s campus. This would have been the chance for Harvard to emphasize its value as a research institution and to tell the committee and the country how it is addressing antisemitism.”
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The federal Joint Task Force to Combat Antisemitism announced last week that it was canceling an additional $450 million in grants to Harvard University, beyond the $2.2 billion it froze in April.

[Броун]

https://www.jns.org/jew-hatred-scourge- ... hair-says/
Haverford, DePaul, Cal Poly presidents grilled on Jew-hatred at House ed panel hearing

Republican members of the House Education and Workforce Committee asked the Haverford College, DePaul University and California Polytechnic State University presidents repeated, tough questions—often raising their voices—about Jew-hatred on campus during a hearing, as Democrats on the panel said the hearing was a stunt, which should address all hatred and that the Trump administration should look inward on the issue.

College President DEFENDS Antisemitism

Какая то фантасмогория.
Колледжи превратились в рассадники антисемитизма.
Демократы защищают их право жидоедствовать.

Как хотите, но республиканцы и Трамп необходимы, чтобы остановить этот шабаш.

[Irena]

https://www.jns.org/jew-hatred-scourge- ... hair-says/
Haverford, DePaul, Cal Poly presidents grilled on Jew-hatred at House ed panel hearing

Republican members of the House Education and Workforce Committee asked the Haverford College, DePaul University and California Polytechnic State University presidents repeated, tough questions—often raising their voices—about Jew-hatred on campus during a hearing, as Democrats on the panel said the hearing was a stunt, which should address all hatred and that the Trump administration should look inward on the issue.

College President DEFENDS Antisemitism

Какая то фантасмогория.
Колледжи превратились в рассадники антисемитизма.
Демократы защищают их право жидоедствовать.

Как хотите, но республиканцы и Трамп необходимы, чтобы остановить этот шабаш.

Вот с этим я полностью согласна. К сожалению, антисемитизм в расцвете и в америке, и в европе. Как со стороны крайне левых, включая пропалестинскую срань, так и со стороны крайне правых. Университеты надо полностью лишить государственеыз денег и таксовых льгот, плюс запретить финансирование из-за рубежа в любой форме, включая искусство, спорт, балет и общества дружбы. Пусть участся только на свои деньги и декларируют их происхождение из легитимных источников. Проверки и строгое наказание за вранье. И полная фбр-ная проверка преподавательского состава, включая родственников и близких знакомых. Развели тут катар с арабскими эмиратами.

[e-z]

2 Israeli Embassy staff members killed outside Jewish museum in Washington, DC.

“The man and woman killed, identified as Yaron Lischinsky and Sarah Milgrim, were a “young couple about to be engaged,” according to Israel’s ambassador to the US”.
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/israel ... g-05-21-25