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Uzito писал(а): ↑Ср апр 30, 2025 6:44 pm

Robson писал(а): ↑Ср апр 30, 2025 5:13 pm Да, с таким Маском плохая демографическая ситуация Америке не грозит. Сколько уже настрогал? 13? 14? Известных. Правда, качество кто знает, какое...

Они как Лысенко наверное думают что ребенок унаследует пересаженные волосы и пластические операции, а не вот это

Robson писал(а): ↑Ср апр 30, 2025 7:04 pm А если и они так же, как отец просто любят процесс делания детей, да еще и учитывая генетику папаши, то, кто знает, какими они будут.

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Robson писал(а): ↑Ср апр 30, 2025 7:04 pm А если и они так же, как отец просто любят процесс делания детей, да еще и учитывая генетику папаши, то, кто знает, какими они будут.

Процесс строго через IVF, никакого натурального осеменения.

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Uzito писал(а): ↑Ср апр 30, 2025 7:39 pm Процесс строго через IVF, никакого натурального осеменения.

Он настолько омерзителен, что даже голддигерши брезгуют близким контактом или все же есть семя правды в слухах о дефективном приборе?

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Адель писал(а): ↑Вс апр 27, 2025 3:18 pm Решила добавить в театр абсурда. Не знаю обсуждали еще эту тему или нет. Я честно говоря офигеваю как можно ставить человек на высокие позиции в ЦРУ если ее сын воюет/ воевал на другой стороне. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna202971

А вы уверены, что сторона, на которой воевал ее сын, "другая"? Может та сторона вполне welcomed?

Uzito писал(а): ↑Ср апр 30, 2025 6:44 pm

Robson писал(а): ↑Ср апр 30, 2025 5:13 pm Да, с таким Маском плохая демографическая ситуация Америке не грозит. Сколько уже настрогал? 13? 14? Известных. Правда, качество кто знает, какое...

Они как Лысенко наверное думают что ребенок унаследует пересаженные волосы и пластические операции, а не вот это

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Uzito писал(а): ↑Ср апр 30, 2025 6:44 pm

Они как Лысенко наверное думают что ребенок унаследует пересаженные волосы и пластические операции, а не вот это

Его дети унаследуют хулиарды бабла. И смогут себе позволить выглядеть как захотят. И делать что захотят. И его внуки тоже.

BarBoss писал(а): ↑Чт май 01, 2025 1:04 am Странно слышать от украинки такую критику чела который так долго давал старлинк на поле боя задаром.

BarBoss писал(а): ↑Чт май 01, 2025 1:04 am Чуйствуеца личная неприязнь к задроту-ботаннику.

Странно слышать от украинки такую критику чела который так долго давал старлинк на поле боя задаром. Уже тока за это ему должно быть огромное сенькью.

self писал(а): ↑Чт май 01, 2025 3:50 am https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 363390007/
WASHINGTON - President Donald Trump on Tuesday joked he’d like to be the next leader of the Roman Catholic Church
Луиджи?

Despite his clear lack of personal religious conviction - his disinterest in or ignorance of the core tenets of any faith - Donald Trump successfully aligned himself with conservative Christian voters. His supporters were willing to overlook his character flaws, his evident disdain for religious principles, and his personal immorality. What mattered was that he, in their view, would defend their values and deliver on their agenda.

For many religious voters, Trump became a symbol of power and vengeance - someone who would "fight for them," not out of any spiritual conviction, but because he promised to uphold their social and political priorities. This willingness to overlook his hypocrisy, to accept him as a "savior" despite his blatant disregard for their faith’s core values, reveals the extent to which personal grievances, power, and tribalism outweighed any moral consistency.

The progression can be traced back to a cultural shift rooted in denial. The advent of Trumpism marked a profound moment in American history - an era in which facts, reason, and objective truth became increasingly irrelevant to large swaths of the population. This denial was not born from ignorance alone; it was a strategic decision to reject the uncomfortable realities of a changing world.

Trump and his movement thrived on this denial. At its core, Trumpism is about rejecting the facts that contradict the deeply held beliefs of its followers. A significant aspect of this was the rejection of inconvenient truths about race, gender, climate change, and science. As America changed, these groups faced a crisis of identity - an identity deeply rooted in outdated worldviews that were increasingly being challenged by social progress, scientific understanding, and demographic shifts. In response, Trump and his movement provided a simple, yet powerful antidote: denial.

Trump's followers were not only reacting to external changes, but to internal discomfort. They hated the idea that science contradicted their religion, that their hypocrisy was being exposed, and that their views on race and gender were increasingly considered offensive or outdated. To cope with these revelations, they did not engage with the facts or attempt to reconcile their beliefs with a modern world. Instead, they simply denied the facts -choosing comfort over truth, and aligning themselves with a figure who, rather than addressing uncomfortable realities, validated their grievances.

Trump, as the leader of this movement, embodied and reinforced this rejection of reality. He empowered his followers to believe in an alternative version of events, a version where they were always the victims, where their discomfort was justified, and where their worldview was never in need of change. Trump didn't need to deliver coherent policy solutions or rational arguments. He only needed to assert that their fears and frustrations were valid, that the facts were lies, and that he would fight for their right to remain in denial.

This denial is not just an individual failing - it is a systemic disease that undermines the democratic process. Trumpism capitalized on a toxic mix of denial and hatred. Many of his supporters found themselves not only rejecting uncomfortable truths but also fostering a deep resentment toward other Americans - particularly "liberals". This hatred became a driving force so powerful that many voters were willing to act against their own self-interest if it meant causing harm to their perceived enemies. They were driven less by the desire for personal gain and more by the satisfaction of seeing their "enemies" suffer.

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self писал(а): ↑Чт май 01, 2025 3:50 am https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 363390007/
WASHINGTON - President Donald Trump on Tuesday joked he’d like to be the next leader of the Roman Catholic Church
Луиджи?

Я думаю евангелики США вполне могут согласиться избрать его как Папу Американского.
Трампизм и религия это близнецы - в основе их лежит отрицание очевидных фактов.

Despite his clear lack of personal religious conviction - his disinterest in or ignorance of the core tenets of any faith - Donald Trump successfully aligned himself with conservative Christian voters. His supporters were willing to overlook his character flaws, his evident disdain for religious principles, and his personal immorality. What mattered was that he, in their view, would defend their values and deliver on their agenda.

For many religious voters, Trump became a symbol of power and vengeance - someone who would "fight for them," not out of any spiritual conviction, but because he promised to uphold their social and political priorities. This willingness to overlook his hypocrisy, to accept him as a "savior" despite his blatant disregard for their faith’s core values, reveals the extent to which personal grievances, power, and tribalism outweighed any moral consistency.

The progression can be traced back to a cultural shift rooted in denial. The advent of Trumpism marked a profound moment in American history - an era in which facts, reason, and objective truth became increasingly irrelevant to large swaths of the population. This denial was not born from ignorance alone; it was a strategic decision to reject the uncomfortable realities of a changing world.

Trump and his movement thrived on this denial. At its core, Trumpism is about rejecting the facts that contradict the deeply held beliefs of its followers. A significant aspect of this was the rejection of inconvenient truths about race, gender, climate change, and science. As America changed, these groups faced a crisis of identity - an identity deeply rooted in outdated worldviews that were increasingly being challenged by social progress, scientific understanding, and demographic shifts. In response, Trump and his movement provided a simple, yet powerful antidote: denial.

Trump's followers were not only reacting to external changes, but to internal discomfort. They hated the idea that science contradicted their religion, that their hypocrisy was being exposed, and that their views on race and gender were increasingly considered offensive or outdated. To cope with these revelations, they did not engage with the facts or attempt to reconcile their beliefs with a modern world. Instead, they simply denied the facts -choosing comfort over truth, and aligning themselves with a figure who, rather than addressing uncomfortable realities, validated their grievances.

Trump, as the leader of this movement, embodied and reinforced this rejection of reality. He empowered his followers to believe in an alternative version of events, a version where they were always the victims, where their discomfort was justified, and where their worldview was never in need of change. Trump didn't need to deliver coherent policy solutions or rational arguments. He only needed to assert that their fears and frustrations were valid, that the facts were lies, and that he would fight for their right to remain in denial.

This denial is not just an individual failing - it is a systemic disease that undermines the democratic process. Trumpism capitalized on a toxic mix of denial and hatred. Many of his supporters found themselves not only rejecting uncomfortable truths but also fostering a deep resentment toward other Americans - particularly "liberals". This hatred became a driving force so powerful that many voters were willing to act against their own self-interest if it meant causing harm to their perceived enemies. They were driven less by the desire for personal gain and more by the satisfaction of seeing their "enemies" suffer.

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Robson писал(а): ↑Пн апр 28, 2025 11:16 am
А вы уверены, что сторона, на которой воевал ее сын, "другая"? Может та сторона вполне welcomed?

Я допускаю что в семье случается всякое. Отец его заявил что у парня были психические расстройства. Вроде он отправился путешествовать и оказался на войне. Вполне возможно его россияне решили использовать в качестве пропаганды воспользовавшись неадекватным ментальным статусом.

Robson писал(а): ↑Ср апр 30, 2025 7:04 pm
Хорошо, если мамы приложат максимум усилий к тому, чтобы дети не просто "были", а чтобы они были выращены и воспитаны, как следует. Отец, как-то в стороне получается от этого. А если и они так же, как отец просто любят процесс делания детей, да еще и учитывая генетику папаши, то, кто знает, какими они будут. Яблоко от яблони далеко не упадет.

self писал(а): ↑Чт май 01, 2025 3:50 am
WASHINGTON - President Donald Trump on Tuesday joked he’d like to be the next leader of the Roman Catholic Church

Луиджи?

Луиджи писал(а): ↑Чт май 01, 2025 7:30 am

Robson писал(а): ↑Ср апр 30, 2025 7:04 pm
Хорошо, если мамы приложат максимум усилий к тому, чтобы дети не просто "были", а чтобы они были выращены и воспитаны, как следует. Отец, как-то в стороне получается от этого. А если и они так же, как отец просто любят процесс делания детей, да еще и учитывая генетику папаши, то, кто знает, какими они будут. Яблоко от яблони далеко не упадет.

так трогательна ваша забота о илоновых детках
а что у него с генетикой, вы что-то потаённое знаете?! рассказывайте, рассказывайте

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Луиджи писал(а): ↑Чт май 01, 2025 7:30 am

так трогательна ваша забота о илоновых детках
а что у него с генетикой, вы что-то потаённое знаете?! рассказывайте, рассказывайте

Только официальный диагноз, озвученный ним самим - аутизм. Никаких сплетен или додумок.